MSNBC host Yasmin Vossoughian couldn't help but mock President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani for a small legal mistake that contradicted his boss on the Sunday talkshows.
According to Giuliani, the president did ask former FBI director James Comey to give his friend Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn a break because he was a good guy. Trump, on the other hand, has maintained that Comey is lying and the conversation never happened.
"Not sure if Giuliani has ever done this before," Vossoughian said. "Oh, wait. He has."
Former CIA operative and Utah presidential candidate Evan McMullin noted that the president and Giuliani are working to win the PR war on this case rather than a legal one. The reason is that it will ultimately come down to impeachment.
"I think in the end, this is going to come back to bite them," he continued. "Because right now there is an absence of information from the special counsel. We don't know what they know or not. That's the way it should be. We get drips and drabs of information in the press, but we really don't know what the special counsel knows. So, in that information void, Guiliani and the president can say all kinds of things."
Ultimately, however, McMullin thinks the information will become known to the American public.
"And if they have already spent their time making this defense of the president based on this political fight, which in the end they can't support the things they have said, then I think they're going to be in trouble," he concluded.
Vossoughian noted that special counsel Robert Mueller is very consciously working to keep things under the protection of the gag order and not leak information out.
"Because he's a professional and he's an adult," said Fordham University Assoc. Prof. Christina Greer. "We're not dealing with a professional or an adult in Trump or Guiliani. And so as Gloria said, Trump is playing the court of public opinion, so, we've already seen 45 percent of Americans now are saying, 'Well, maybe Bob Mueller is taking too long or maybe he doesn't have anything.' Because Trump can just throw something out there and then for the 24 or 48-hour news cycle until he'll do something else, we'll follow that."
Watch the full discussion below:
