John Kelly undercuts Trump on border demands: 'To be honest, it’s not a wall'
President Donald Trump, pictured in February 2018 with his outgoing chief of staff John Kelly, whom he is struggling to replace in a White House beset by turmoil, infight and legal probes. (AFP/File / ANDREW CABALLERO-REYNOLDS)

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, outgoing White House Chief of Staff John Kelly undercut President Donald Trump's pet project, a wall between Mexico and the U.S. saying it's not exactly what is needed.

Speaking with the Times,m Kelly claimed, “To be honest, it’s not a wall.”

“The president still says ‘wall’ — oftentimes frankly he’ll say ‘barrier’ or ‘fencing,’ now he’s tended toward steel slats. But we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration when we asked people what they needed and where they needed it," Kelly continued.

Asked if w a wall was needed and if Trump has drummed up immigrant "invasion" fears, Kelly ducked the question, saying only: "We do have an immigration problem.”

You can read the whole interview here.