Trump ‘believes in an alternative reality America’ where ‘fascism rules’: Intelligence expert
President Trump (CPAC) in National Harbor, Maryland. (Gage Skidmore/Flickr)

President Donald Trump thinks he is living in an "alternate reality" an intelligence and terrorism expect explained on MSNBC.

Malcolm Nance, author the pre-2016 election book The Plot to Hack America: How Putin's Cyberspies and WikiLeaks Tried to Steal the 2016 Election, joined MSNBC's "The Last Word" with guest host Ari Melber on Wednesday.

Melber noted a recent New York Times column by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice.

"What is driving her into this very dire, stark assessment are the facts that we can see before our very eyes," Nance suggested. "Donald Trump as president of the United States has taken a tact to where he believes the fundamental security under pinnings of this nation, that have been established in blood from the time that we entered World War II, that those fundamental under pinnings -- N.A.T.O., the Atlantic alliance between Washington and the European capitals, maintaining stability throughout the western and eastern hemispheres -- they should go away."

"He believes the United States should not be a force for good through the advancement of democracy. He fundamentally believes that autocracy -- the way that it is run by his partner, Vladimir Putin -- should be the operating method for the way the united states will advance in the future," Nance continued. "Which means you must get rid of N.A.T.O. -- he has hinted he wanted the United States to withdraw at one point."

"He doesn't believe in anything we've believed in 243 years," Nance argued. "Of course, Ambassador Rice is right, the man does not believe in what America stands for."

"He believes in an alternate reality America in which it would be very comfortable in some other universe where fascism rules," he added.