'If the BuzzFeed report is correct -- we are at impeachment': MSNBC conservative
President Donald J. Trump arrives at the Memorial Amphitheater during the 149th annual Department of Defense (DoD) National Memorial Day Observance. (DoD Photo by U.S. Army Sgt. James K. McCann)

MSNBC commentator John Podhoretz said the bombshell BuzzFeed report, if confirmed, should end Donald Trump's presidency.


The "Morning Joe" guest said the crimes detailed in that new reporting was much simpler and clearer than the alleged crimes related to Russian collusion, and he said Congress would have no choice but to impeach Trump if the claims are correct.

"The Russian collusion story is very complicated, hard to follow," Podhoretz said. "There's always a question whether collusion is conspiracy and what happened, what was in the president's head. None of that matters here."

"This is a very simple question," he added. "Did the president suborn perjury or didn't he?"

Trump's longtime chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg has already struck an immunity deal with special counsel Robert Mueller, and Podhoretz said his testimony could provide evidence to bring down the president.

"If there's independent evidence from another Trump lawyer that they were getting all this information and somehow that Trump knew that Cohen shouldn't share it, that's open-and-shut," Podhoretz said. "There's no question at that point, and he will be impeached. That's not to say he'll be removed by the Senate, because then you have this political question of whether or not 17 or 15 Republican senators join the Democrats in removing him from office."

"If the BuzzFeed story is correct we are, like, not only at another level, we are at impeachment," he added.