Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) busted Meghan McCain for misrepresenting her position on border security during a lengthy appearance on “The View.”
The Democratic presidential candidate answered a wide range of questions from the panelists, who tried — and failed — more than once to get Harris to criticize Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY).
“I’m going to try to make this as quick and dirty as possible,” McCain said. “You’re for decriminalizing border crossings, you’re one of the people that raised your hand at the debate. Do you agree with AOC that we should get rid of DHS altogether?”
The smile melted from Harris’ face as McCain spoke, and she immediately pounced on her inaccurate statement before addressing the substance of the question.
“That is not correct,” she said. “I am not in favor of decriminalizing or not having consequence — let me be very clear. We have to have a secure border, but I am in favor of saying that we’re not going to treat people who are undocumented and cross the border as criminals.”
“What we cannot do is have any more policy like we have under this current president that is about inhumane conduct, that is about putting babies in cages, that is about separating children from their parents and we have got to have policy that is about passing comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway toward citizenship.”
McCain tried to lure Harris into a trap.
“Clarify this for me, though, because I do find it confusing,” McCain said. “I believe if someone crosses over the border illegally, it is illegal, and you would decriminalize it.”
Harris stuck to her stated position.
“I would not make it punishable by jail,” the senator said. “It should be a civil enforcement issue, but not a criminal enforcement issue.”
That seemed to satisfy McCain, who stayed out of the way and let Harris continue talking.
“You’ve got to play by the rules, but we can’t treat people like criminals when they are crossing the border, and incarcerate them and separate families,” Harris added.
McCain admitted that it was hard for her to wrap her head around the nuances of border security because conservatives held fast to an all-or-nothing approach to immigration.
“I think just for conservatives it’s a talking point that we think open borders is something the left wants,” McCain said, “and I understand we have a difference of opinion.”
Harris said, despite their differences, she did believe in securing the border, and then McCain pressed her on Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal to eliminate the Department of Homeland Security.
“No, I would not,” Harris said. “We need to restructure and reform it. It has been found through federal audits to be one of the most dysfunctional of the federal agencies, so we need to deal with it and fix it, but I do not believe in getting rid of it.”
‘I don’t care’: Watch Kamala Harris shut down Chris Hayes for asking a dumb question about Trump
Sen. Kamala Harris shut down MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes during a post-debate interview on Tuesday evening.
Hayes questioned Harris about her call for Twitter to follow their terms of service and kick President Donald Trump off of the platform.
"Do you think he puts people’s lives in danger when he targets them in tweets?" Hayes asked.
"Absolutely," Harris replied.
"Do you think he knows that?" Hayes asked.
"Does it matter?" Harris replied.
"The fact is he did it. The fact is that he is irresponsible, he is erratic," she explained. "He is like a 2-year-old with a machine gun."
Democrats blast Trump and demand his impeachment at CNN debate
Democratic White House hopefuls united in searing condemnation of Donald Trump during their fourth debate Tuesday, saying the president has broken the law, abused his power, and deserves to be impeached.
From the opening moments, most of the dozen candidates on stage launched fierce broadsides against Trump over the Ukrainian scandal at the heart of the impeachment inquiry.
"The impeachment must go forward," said Senator Elizabeth Warren, who is neck and neck with former vice president Joe Biden at the head of the 2020 nominations race.
"Impeachment is the way that we establish that this man will not be permitted to break the law over and over without consequences," she thundered.
Here are 3 winners and 4 losers from the CNN/NYT Democratic presidential primary debate
Twelve Democrats took to the stage Tuesday night for yet another debate in the party's 2020 president primary hosted by CNN and the New York Times.
After only ten candidates qualified for the previous debate, an additional two — Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and wealthy donor and former hedge fund manager Tom Steyer — made it to the stage this round for an even more crowded event.
The candidates discussed a range of important policy issues, but since the format was a debate, and they're all competing for the same nomination, it is ultimately most critical who won and who lost the night. Here are three winners and four losers — necessarily a subjective assessment, of course — from the debate: