Even conservatives are reacting with anger over the raid in Chicago last week that left children nearly naked and zip-tied on the streets.
Speaking to MSNBC on Wednesday, former Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) said that he's all for enforcing immigration laws, but seeing the raid was infuriating.
His comments followed MSNBC's Jacob Soboroff, who said he's seeing a lot of "cognitive dissonance" from the White House regarding the reality of cities like Chicago and Portland. He pointed to a report speaking to people who live in cities who dispute Trump's claim that they're a "war zone," "lawless," and "on fire."
"The raid on that apartment building in Chicago, where they brought in the helicopters and they were rappelling down, and they were breaking in and putting kids in, in, in these zip ties, completely and totally outrageous," said Kasich. "It makes a situation really, really bad. It's an outrageous situation. Really, really bad. It's outrageous. Okay? That's something that should be explained to people in the administration. I never given up communicating with people who have authority and power to a point where I can call on them to help me. But that raid in Chicago was just, I'm just still, my blood is boiling over that raid. And nobody supports that. Nobody."
Soboroff explained that the cruelty is the purpose of such raids.
"And I don't know if any level of communication with the Trump administration is going to stop them from these shows of force," he recalled the border patrol marching through MacArthur Park in Los Angeles, and never arresting anyone.
"Let me ask you a question or our audience a question?" Soboroff pivoted. "Why would they be out there with documentary video crews taking high definition video of that raid on the apartment building Gov. Kasich is talking about? ... If they didn't know exactly what they were doing and doing, exactly what they wanted to do. They are documenting all of these things and putting them out for the world to see, because that is the point."
He said he hoped there could be some level of dialogue, but it didn't seem as if the federal government was open to it from his vantage point.
Host Katy Tur noted that there's already a clearly identified pastor wearing a clerical collar, who is suing the federal government after being hit with pepper bullets while praying. Pastor David Black, of the First Presbyterian Church of Chicago, was sprayed directly in the face with pepper-spray.
