Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) became frustrated with Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner for discussing former President Joe Biden rather than President Donald Trump's record.
During a Thursday Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, Turner noted that there were 770,000 people homeless at one point under the Biden administration.
"Right. So what is your record?" Gillibrand asked. "You had this job for well over a year. I just want to know. Did you get the number down? Do we have 700,000 homeless still? Or is it a million or a million point five?"
"I just don't want to hear about what you don't like about the Biden administration," she added. "You're in charge. You have a vision. Let's see it. Let's see the results."
"I thank God that I'm in charge so we can do stuff different," Turner replied, "because the plays that were ran before I got here, they failed.... But you all had during the Biden administration four years..."
"Stop talking about Biden!" Gillibrand interrupted. "Talk about your record. This is so, this is so inaccurate, unhelpful, and doesn't let this committee do our job."
For his part, Turner argued that last year's government shutdown had crippled his ability to provide the committee with numbers.
"I think you're obfuscating," Gillibrand noted.
"Irregardless of all of that, during the Biden administration, record funding," Turner said.
"Oh, my God!" Gillibrand exclaimed. "If you talk about — it's like — it's like two children saying, I didn't do it. My brother did it. Stop with the excuses! Just explain your record!"
"Record homelessness, we have to do something different," Turner stated. "It's going to get better."
"Do you know what it's like to be a homeless little girl who has to have a Girl Scout troop just for other homeless little girls because that's all they have?" the senator asked. "That's the only consistency they have in their life. So I get, you have a different vision."
"I need to know if your stuff is working," she added.
