President Donald Trump's MAGA movement is falling apart because it is based on little more than attacking and bullying others, former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich told MS NOW's Antonia Hylton on Monday — and the falling out between Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) is a sign of what is to come.
"Governor, do you think that kind of soul-searching is happening right now?" asked Hylton. "I ask because, you know, as part of this profile with The New York Times, Marjorie Taylor Greene describes herself as having been naive. She also says that 'Our side has been trained by Donald Trump to never apologize and to never admit when you're wrong. You just keep pummeling your enemies no matter what. And as a Christian, I don't believe in doing that.'"
"Do you think she's being genuine, or is this sort of an effort to sanitize and restrategize for what's to come?" Hylton asked.
"You know, Antonia, we can't guess, right? We can't say," said Kasich, who broke with his own party to endorse former President Joe Biden in 2020. "I mean, there was a guy named Saul, and he traveled all over the world persecuting Christians. And when he got to Damascus, he was thrown off his horse, blinded. And he ended up becoming Saint Paul, who wrote a giant chunk of the New Testament. So, I mean, was Saul real? In the beginning? People didn't know, but he became Paul, and then they all believed. Is she truly having a transformation? I don't know, I wouldn't want to say that she's not. But we've got to see how she does going forward. And I'm not her judge."
"You know, if she wants to claim that she is — I mean, I think the whole Epstein thing, Thomas Massie, the one man, but, you know, women were greatly moved by this. Thank goodness," Kasich continued. "You want change. You want results. Sometimes you just got to go to women because they say, we've had enough of this. What they see is the abuse of children, the abuse of women. And I think they've had enough of that."
"She also has gone on to talk about the fact that she doesn't want to be attacking people and being mean," he added. "I think it's okay in politics to have differences, but when you start attacking somebody personally, when you're treating them like they're trash or something, that is a violation of everything we know as Americans and as believers. So I hope it's for real. I mean, she is leaving. Where she's going to go, I don't know, but I think it's a good thing that she's saying, we've got to stop being mean to one another. I think we all can agree with that. And I hope she'll carry that out."
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