"The View's" Republican co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin made it clear Tuesday that she too takes issue with the recent decision by the Texas Supreme Court to force a pregnant woman to carry a dangerous pregnancy.
For the past year, after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, many red-state lawmakers have claimed they want to allow for a carveout for the life and health of the mother. But in Texas, that was shot down when Kate Cox revealed carrying her fetus to term could endanger her ability to have future pregnancies — and would end in the painful death of the fetus.
The state's Supreme Court ruled she could not abort the fetus.
The co-hosts of "The View" were furious, even pro-life Alyssa.
"I don't understand," said Whoopi Goldberg. "I don't understand why people who don't know how my body functions and what it does and what it needs, I don't know why they're in charge when I'm paying taxes. Get out of my uterus!"
"I'm sorry, you know, let me just be clear, I appreciate people who don't ever have to make this decision. I appreciate you and I applaud you. But when there are people at risk and there are a group of folks making decisions about my body, I don't get it and, you know, this is not advocating or saying no to it. I'm saying leave my body to me and my doctor. I mean, am I crazy?"
Sunny Hostin pointed out that the state court also agreed with that, saying that the doctor in Cox's case never made the case that her symptoms were life-threatening. She was threatened with legal action if she left the state for the procedure.
"But noted, it should be up to doctors, not judges," Hostin quoted.
"I think people hinge their thoughts on religion and this issue," she continued. "We are not a theocracy. We are a democracy. And that is why it needs to be separate. Everyone knows in the audience and at this table I'm Catholic so my faith tells me I can't have an abortion. It's against God. It's a sin. It's all of these things, but I can't tell you what to do or you what to do or you what to do because it's not a place for the government."
Sara Haines agreed, and noted that everyone answers for his or her own decisions and no individual's belief can be imposed on another. But her anger around the issue stems from Republican lawmakers who only demand life on this issue.
"The hypocrisy of this issue in general. We care about a life but not when it's living and needs social services because someone tried to family plan," said Haines. "The talk about the privacy with guns, like I want my guns, I want to protect my guns but you don't mind when you invade my body.
"The amount of times Democrats, we talk about — the death penalty is usually a belief on the right. What about that life? So, we get a judge, sometimes we get to choose some lives. We don't put enough into the mother's life. The reason it was always about viability without that mother's life this baby wouldn't exist. There are scientific reasons for these things."
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But it was Griffin who made it clear that even as a "pro-life" person, Republicans have ended up on the wrong side of the issue.
"I think someone used an important term: dogma," she said. "There is a dogmaticness that's existed on the right. I'm somebody who I'm personally pro-life but come to a place where I'm open to some access and some limitations, but policy-making — I've learned this is not always black and white."
She said that she knows women in similar situations where her life is at risk or the fetus is at risk. In Cox's case, her future fertility is at risk.
"It's easy to talk about pro-life when it's a slogan and we say it because Roe is the law of the land and people can get abortions when they want to," Griffin continued.
We're realizing the public sentiment isn't where we thought. Deep red Kansas, Ohio Republican women said, we want some access to abortion, and I think we have to wake up that there is a place where people of good conscience can meet on this issue that will never have women in a situation where they're demonized and denied medically recommended care from their doctor."
See the full conversation in the video below or at the link here.
