Columnist E. Jean Carroll's attorney in the Donald Trump defamation case is extremely experienced, yet she said it was 'nerve-racking' to be in the same courtroom as Alina Habba, counsel to the ex-president.
Carroll and her two lawyers, Roberta Kaplan and Shawn Crowley, appeared on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show in an interview that was replayed on Saturday to discuss the outcome of the case, which saw Trump being hit by a $83.3 million jury award in favor of the columnist.
Maddow noted that the lawyers have "been against some of the best and brightest opposing counsel in all sorts of different trials," and asked, "How is (former) President Trump's lawyering?"
"Is he well represented in court?" Maddow asked.
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Without directly answering the question, Kaplan referenced the infamous recording of Habba yelling at reporters after the verdict came in.
"That's what we heard every single day, multiple times during this trial, but yelling at the judge," she said. "And it was unbelievably nerve-racking each time it happened, and it happens multiple times every day."
Crowley added:
"I think that she had a hard job, and you could definitely see a difference between her sort of style, when he was in the courtroom, and when he was not there. She was much more disciplined and frankly acted more like a lawyer when he wasn't there. When he was, I mean, you could hear him telling her when to object, muttering things, and loudly being frustrated with her. And I think she felt like she had to say things to the judge and to us and sort of put on a performance, like we just saw in front of that TV cameras."
