In another awkwardly worded statement Monday, President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani tried to explain his “Meet the Press” gaffe.
In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd Sunday, Giuliani explained “the truth is not truth,” earning him ridicule.
While speaking to Fox News host Martha MacCallum, Giuliani tried to explain that truth is relative.
“And when you tell me that you know, he should testify because is he going to tell the truth and shouldn’t worry, that’s so silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth, not the truth,” Giuliani said. “He didn’t have a conversation.”
Giuliani explained that is now infamous line applied to the situation involving Trump’s conversation with former FBI Director James Comey about Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
“I’m talking about this particular situation,” he said. “One person says the Flynn conversation took place. The other person says the Flynn conversation didn’t take place. What’s the truth? You tell me how you figure out the truth.”
MacCallum said, simply, “either he did or he didn’t.”
“Like the tree falling in the forest. How do we know what the truth is?” Giuliani asked.
The problem with that analogy is that the tree falling in the forest does make a sound, whether a person is there to hear it or not. The sound might be remarkably similar to the sound of Giuliani’s excuses falling flat.
“You are talking whether or not the president asked James Comey said to go easy on Michael Flynn,” MacCallum said. “James Comey says did he and the president said he didn’t.”
Giuliani said that Trump would be charged with perjury regardless of the answer he gave.
“In situations like — this the prosecutors the truth is relative and it’s not absolute like some philosophical concept,” Giuliani said. “Maybe, maybe through their prejudices the New York Times and Chuck Todd can figure out the truth that Comey is telling the truth but I can’t. I believe the president is telling the truth.”
“Let’s just say again the president says we didn’t discuss it. And Don McGahn says we did,” he continued. “It’s not illegal to have discussed it. So, there would be no reason for the president to lie. That’s just his recollection. But if you have a prosecutor that’s out to get you, and wants to select the truth in the way Chuck Todd thinks can you determine the truth like fact.”
Watch the conversation below:
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