President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani has caused problems for his client in the last several days by putting together a complicated timeline around the Trump Tower Moscow deal. What Trump knew, when he knew it, and who was in charge of what are all questions Giuliani has clarified and then been forced to readjust.
While CNN spent segments Monday afternoon ridiculing the former “American Mayor,” an Erin Burnett panel discussion explored how forgetful and confused the president seems to be.
National security analyst Juliette Kayyem disputed the president’s framing that Trump Tower Moscow as a “minor matter” and inconsequential to the overall investigation into a possible conspiracy with Russia.
“It definitely was not a minor matter,” she said. “And when it comes to collusion or corruption … either the Trump team and the Trump children, who are implicated in this one, were negotiating to make a good deal for Trump — and remember, Trump is assuming he’s going to lose so on the other side of this. He’s richer and consistently lied about it. Whether it’s January, June or November, they have lied about it the whole time.”
When it came from the bizarre claim that Giuliani had a “hypothetical conversation” with Trump, Kayyem called it nonsense.
“Like, I have hypothetical conversations with like Oprah Winfrey and George Clooney but I’m not their lawyer, right?” she said. “This is his lawyer. You don’t have hypothetical conversations with your lawyer. I believe Giuliani spoke the truth and they are trying to clean it up now because they have been lying about this deal since day one.”
Burnett agreed it’s evident “there has been lying” because the inconsistencies are stacking up. What she found to be the most hilarious component to Trump’s argument is that he suddenly says he doesn’t recall. She ran a supercut of all of the times Trump said he’s “like, a really smart person” and has a “good” or “great” memory.
“People know me for my memory,” Trump said at one point.
“The words of a stable genius, right?” joked New York Times‘ Frank Bruni. “I honestly think when it comes to Russia and these different narratives that Giuliani and Trump lose track of what they said because I think, this sounds cynical, they are lying or spending so much time in so many different directions I don’t think they can keep an accurate and complete account of what they have said and what they are now contra incompetent — contradicting.”
Watch the discussion below: