Former President Donald Trump joined Newsmax for an interview that aired on Thursday morning in which he spewed out a laundry list of bizarre accusations against ex-White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, whose sworn testimony before the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol on Tuesday was absolutely devastating for Trump.
A visibly agitated Trump complained about Hutchinson's recounting of his behavior during the insurrection.
"Some whack job can say this stuff and get away with it, and other things, that I wanted guns at my rally. Okay, now I'm speaking, why would I want guns? I don't want people having, standing with guns in my rally," he said on Wake Up America.
Hutchinson recalled that Trump believed that his armed supporters were "not there to hurt me."
Trump maintained that "this woman, she wanted to work for me after January 6th. She was a big Trump fan. She wanted to work for me in Florida and we chose not to bring her down because I got very bad things."
Next, Trump repeated what he said on Tuesday – that "I hardly knew her," even though his and Hutchinson's West Wing offices were only a few yards apart. "And I said, 'well if she's no good, I got somebody called up, numerous people, that she's not good.''"
Trump then refused to say "why she's not good, plenty of reasons... she was not respected by the people in the White House. So they thought she shouldn't go down. I was going down to Florida with a group of people, great group of people, patriots, and her name was thrown out there and they said, 'stay away from her.' They said bad things about her."
Hutchinson's strange story about Trump trying to hijack his motorcade, which was told to her by Trump's then-deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato, made him particularly upset.
"And then I see her, and again, I hardly know who she is. And then I see this woman getting up and she's making up stories, like one after another, but the craziest of all was that I tried to commandeer – they used that word – I tried to commandeer a car with Secret Service agents telling them to take us down to the Capitol," Trump said. "It was totally false, and that a person can get away with it... and then I watch the Times and The Washington Post, and I get reviews on MSDNC, and CNN, they hardly even talk about the fact that she's been totally discredited."
That is untrue, given that so far, nobody has refuted Hutchinson's damning statements under oath.
Watch below via Vox's Aaron Rupar:
\u201c"Whack job ... I won't say why that she's not good, but plenty of reasons" -- Trump makes all sorts of weird insinuations about Cassidy Hutchinson during a new Newsmax interview\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
Trump's reaction rekindled widespread suspicions that he is attempting to engage in witness tampering in order to obfuscate the truth.
\u201c@atrupar Witness intimidation and tampering\u2026encouraging his deranged base to attack this woman\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar the amount of effort and time spent on discrediting her, pretty much confirms she's telling the truth.\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar He looks so terrified and frazzled that he forgot to slather on his orange makeup.\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar You can reuse these comments for any former staffer that has less than glowing things to say about Trump and his administration. Really is as predictable as a bad mob movie.\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@SueRic2 @atrupar Exactly. Dude always sticks to the same script. We know him too well by now. The more he smears someone, the more he fears them.\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar And he brings out the I hardly knew her defense.\nShe worked down the hall from him for how many years..for his \nChief of staff for goodness sakes...\nThe number of people who worked for him who he now claims he didn't know is staggering..\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar That was possibly the most unconvincing thing I\u2019ve heard him say since he refused to disclose his favorite Bible verse. She was not respected such that on 1/6 she was in Meadows office, backstage at the Rally and in and out of the car/office/command center Meadows was holed up in\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
\u201c@atrupar Did he never wonder why a "total whack job" had the office next to Jared and Mark Meadows and two doors down from the Oval Office?\u201d— Aaron Rupar (@Aaron Rupar) 1656606779
Those conjectures are not without warrant.
On Thursday afternoon, CNN National Security Reporter Zachary Cohen reported that "multiple sources" revealed to him, anchor Kasie Hunt, and Congressional Correspondent Ryan Nobles that Hutchinson told the bipartisan House panel "that she was contacted by someone who was attempting to influence her testimony."
\u201cCassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump's White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, told the January 6 committee that she was contacted by someone who was attempting to influence her testimony, multiple sources confirm to me, @kasie & @ryanobles.\u201d— Zachary Cohen (@Zachary Cohen) 1656606794