If Giuliani tried to flip on Trump, he wouldn't even be credible to prosecutors anymore: Preet Bharara
On Wednesday's edition of CNN's "The Lead," former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara suggested that even if Rudy Giuliani tries to flip on former President Donald Trump to save himself from the investigation into his foreign business dealings,
"New York prosecutors are also still actively investigating Donald Trump and the Trump Organization," said anchor Jake Tapper. "If you had to guess right now do you think that potentially Giuliani might flip on Trump if it means saving himself, and is that possibly what's going on with the investigation into Giuliani?"
"That's a very difficult question to answer. We're not even at the point where he's been charged," said Bharara. "We saw ... Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen never was tied up by the Southern District of New York. He made it clear he wanted to help, but perhaps they didn't trust his willingness. Giuliani would have to come clean about not just himself, but members of his family, political allies and Donald Trump and everyone else and not everyone, even if you want to save your own skin, is up to that task. It's a significant thing to do. Rudy Giuliani seems to have changed a lot in the last period of years, so — and he's unpredictable in some measure."
"You're suggesting he might not be credible anymore as a witness against Trump, were anybody trying to push him to — to do so, and yet I can easily imagine prosecutors in New York or Georgia or D.C. or wherever thinking of Trump as a big get. Don't you think?" said Tapper.
"Yeah, no, absolutely," said Bharara. "Look. Giuliani has been quoted with that remark ... saying 'I have insurance' in the context of good-faith listeners suggesting that he has information about Donald Trump. What else would he have been talking about when he referred to insurance in that context?"
"Sounds like something out of Scorcese," agreed Tapper.
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MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace played a years-old clip of legal adviser and former prosecutor Neal Katyal saying that it was clear there was a "miss-match" between what then-Attorney General Bill Barr was saying about Robert Mueller's investigation and what the special counsel was saying. Years after the fact, it has become clear that Barr not only lied to the American people, but he lied to Congress and he lied in court, while trying to cover up what was actually being done to protect then President Donald Trump.
"I'm not sitting here feeling good about the fact that I and so many others were right two years ago," he confessed Wednesday. "I desperately wanted to be wrong. Our system is set up to trust Barr was attorney general of the United States. not the attorney general for President Trump. He was supposed to be for the people. Unfortunately, there was always a degree of corruption around him. He constantly acted like one of Donald Trump's personal attorneys. Now, with the new decision by the judge into his deception, he's finally being treated like one of the gang, which he always was."
He noted that Judge Amy Berman Jackson made it clear that Barr lied to the court as well as the American people.
"She called Barr's actions in the litigating position disingenuous, which is something you almost never hear a federal judge say about any litigant, particularly not someone from the Justice Department, and particularly not the attorney general of the United States," Katyal continued. "If a federal judge calls your testimony before the Congress disingenuous, as she did, I think it's time to start retaining legal counsel, and ideally someone who can save whatever is left of that tattered reputation that you have."
Wallace pressed Katyal, asking what can be done now that Barr is out of office.
"Well, I think, you know, this is true about every attorney who surrounded themselves with Donald Trump," he began. "They run into criminal liability. You see it -- you know, we'll talk about [Rudy[ Giuliani a bit later. You see it time and again, Michael Cohen, all these other people. Judge Jackson is saying in this opinion, Barr, you testified before Congress, your testimony before Congress was that you had made these decisions. Now it looks like you didn't actually make these decisions, and this material you're trying to prevent the American people from seeing you claimed was shielded because you hadn't made the decisions at the time, but it looks like you did. So, there is the possibility of a criminal investigation into Bill Barr now. There's also the possibility of civil and disciplinary actions against him as well. I mean, the attorney general of the United States is supposed to be above reproach. Here you have the top lawyer for the entire government, you know, being accused of being disingenuous by an incredibly well-respected judge in D.C. This is the third judge."
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The downward spiral of former "19 Kids and Counting" star Josh Duggar continued Wednesday as federal prosecutors revealed specifics about what was discovered on his computers.
According to TMZ, Dugger had over 200 lewd images of children under the age of 12 on his laptop. The images showed nude underage minors and child sex abuse material.
In their attempt to defend Duggar, his lawyers claimed that the Department of Homeland Security can't prove that Dugger was actually looking at the images. Charges involving such crimes involve possession of the abusive images. Prosecutors don't need to prove what Duggar was doing with the images.
Duggar was accused of molesting young girls — some of whom were his sisters as early as 2002. That was when TLC canceled the conservative and evangelica family's television show.
"In 2006, Josh's father admitted his son had molested young girls four years prior. Jim Bob and Michelle sent him to a Christian program called Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) Training Center in Little Rock, Arkansas, for treatment in 2003," recalled KNWA this week. "Josh stayed at IBLP for 90 days. It was during this time that Jim Bob, Josh, and the church reported the molestation to authorities.
Duggar has pleaded not guilty.
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