The question about it came from co-host Joy Behar, who asked why she thinks Trump would ever agree to something like that. "He's never going to go away," she said.
"Well, he's already been impeached a couple of times," said Rivera. "I want, you know, him to move on in his life. He had a pretty good presidency. I know a lot of people don't want to admit that, but I think he had a pretty good presidency."
The majority of America disagrees with the assessment as evidenced by the 2020 election.
Behar noted that to be pardoned, Trump would have to admit to his guilt and admit he's a criminal.
"You know what I want, I want him to cop to the fact that he broke the law, that he did things," said Goldberg.
"I don't think that would happen," said Rivera.
"Well, I don't think — that's why I don't think he should get pardoned because someone who doesn't —" Goldberg said as the audience broke in with applause
"I remember a guy who could have fired me on Celebrity Apprentice and didn't," said Rivera.
"This is the country we're talking about!" exclaimed Behar.
During another conversation about former Fox host Tucker Carlson, Rivera said that he had a charismatic presentation and was No. 1 on the network for a reason.
"Then he drifted into this murky area where — swampy area — where, you know, these conspiracy theories — and it's not just Jan. 6th, a whole bunch of different mucky kind of conspiracies," said Rivera. "Will he still have that influence? Fox is a tremendous platform, and once you lose that platform, you're kind of screaming in the wilderness and competing with a lot of other people who have podcasts and so forth. So will he be the same character? I don't know. Will he, you know — when he was on Fox, he was saying he was going to be a candidate for the Republican nomination. That's clearly not going to happen."
Behar said that someone could put a fork in him.
"Well, I mean, when — because put a fork in it, you know, I don't like to be unkind, but what he did, just as I would never vote for Donald Trump, I will never forgive Tucker for what he did about Jan. 6th."
Carlson, among other things, produced a weeks worth of heavily edited security footage from inside the Capitol to claim that Jan. 6 didn't actually happen or that it wasn't as serious as it was being made out to be. Speaker Kevin McCarthy gave him the videos, but has refused to allow the public access to them or any legitimate journalists the ability to see them.
See the exchange in the video below or at the link here.
